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New Treatment Options for Tinnitus: Lifestyle, Supplements & Medical Devices

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Megan Saltsgaver • Updated Jan 15, 2025 • 121 hits

Tinnitus is a condition characterized by the perception of ringing, buzzing, or other sounds in the ears without an external source. It affects millions of people and can range from a mild annoyance to a debilitating experience. Much like migraines, tinnitus is believed to be driven by changes in the brain's processing of sensory signals, making it a neurological condition with both auditory and central sensitivity components. Recent advancements in tinnitus treatments are drawing on techniques used for migraine management, widening the treatment options and increasing success for patients.

Otolaryngologist, Dr. Hamid Djalilian explains current and emerging treatment options for tinnitus. This article features excerpts from the BackTable ENT Podcast. We’ve provided the highlight reel in this article, and you can listen to the full podcast below.

The BackTable ENT Brief

• Tinnitus shares similarities with migraines, especially in how both conditions are linked to central sensitivity. Central sensitivity refers to the brain’s heightened response to sensory input, which can cause both the ringing in the ears of tinnitus and the pain of migraines. This suggests that treatments addressing the brain's processing of these signals might benefit both conditions.

• Reducing caffeine, alcohol, and stress, along with improving sleep hygiene and using background noise, can help manage tinnitus symptoms.

• Vitamin B2, magnesium, Coenzyme Q10 and Vitamin Dsupplements have been shown to improve migraine and tinnitus symptoms, while antidepressants or anti-anxiety medications can address related symptoms like anxiety and sleep disturbances.

• Researchers are exploring new, advanced treatments for tinnitus, including technology-driven therapies like bimodal neurostimulation devices. These devices combine sound stimulation and electrical pulses to target the neural pathways involved in tinnitus.

New Treatment Options for Tinnitus: Lifestyle, Supplements & Medical Devices

Table of Contents

(1) Lifestyle & Dietary Modifications for Tinnitus

(2) Tinnitus Medications & Supplements

(3) New Treatment Options for Tinnitus

Lifestyle & Dietary Modifications for Tinnitus

Effective treatment of tinnitus, particularly when associated with migraine-like processes, often begins with lifestyle and dietary modifications. Studies suggest that 40-50% of patients experience significant improvement through strict adherence to these changes. Key recommendations include eliminating caffeine, maintaining a consistent sleep schedule, and managing stress levels. The importance of eliminating dietary triggers such as histamine-rich nuts, caffeine, and processed foods is emphasized, with patients encouraged to avoid "picking and choosing" which recommendations to follow.

In cases of untreated sleep apnea or severe stress, additional interventions like sleep studies or cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) are often employed. Combining lifestyle modifications with targeted medications, including tricyclic antidepressants, anti-seizure drugs, and sometimes anti-CGRP antibodies, has shown promising results, with up to 90% of patients experiencing improvement. However, the success of treatment depends on a holistic approach that integrates both non-pharmacological strategies and medication tailored to individual needs.

[Dr. Hamid Djalilian]
We first start with the lifestyle dietary modifications. Usually, from what we have looked at in our data, probably somewhere in the 40 to 50% will just improve with just that. They do really have to follow it. As you said, I didn't mention histamine as a dietary trigger and that's what's in nuts, but if they really follow it. Now, it's not too uncommon that people come and they say, "Well, I'm not better, I did everything. I said, "Well, are you drinking caffeine?" "Well, I have my coffee in the morning."

Elimination of caffeine means elimination of caffeine. You can't just say, "Well, I'm just going to drink my coffee. That's okay." Then I'm like, "Well, are you sleeping at a regular schedule?" "I still take naps in the afternoon." That's not good. You got to go stick with the program. I tell them, it's not an a la carte menu. It's a prefix menu. You got to do everything that's on there. You can't get to pick and choose because if you pick and choose, you're not going to get better because we don't know if the ones that you're not choosing are your potential triggers. We have to concentrate on the things.

Now, the ones that we have the most difficulty with are the ones who have a major stressor in their life. Most commonly, it's a spouse or a parent that is ill or a child that they have to take care of. That's a major source of stress that they have to live with every single day. Those are the ones that are most difficult, I should say. The others are untreated sleep apnea. That's why if somebody's not getting better with medication, we will send them for a sleep study. Even if they say that they don't feel they have it, I still will check it just to be sure.

I do use my sleep medicine colleagues a lot for people with insomnia and using cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia is a very valuable resource. There is a free app that was produced by the VA system called CBTI Coach that people can use. It's an eight-week program, but there are CBTI practitioners all over the country. It would be a good resource for patients to work with. Now, if we do everything, meaning lifestyle changes, dietary changes, get the sleep in order, get medications, usually sometimes a couple of medicines together, we can get about 85 to 90% of them better.

It requires being flexible and sometimes being creative because patients can get side effects. We have to work around them and sometimes combine medicines that we don't traditionally combine. For example, we use a tricyclic antidepressant, for example, like a nortriptyline and they get to a certain dose and they get side effects from that. Then it's too low a dose, I really think they need a little higher dose of something.

I'll add something like Paxil to it, for example, and try to get them the effect that we need sort of the anti-anxiety and anti-migraine effect of that combined together. Then it will add like an anti-seizure to it, like topiramate or gabapentin or lamotrigine, things like that. We have to be creative because patients with migraine are generally very sensitive to medications. Now, I have colleagues who tell me, "Well, I tried lamotrigine and it didn't work, that's all I can do." I tell the patient, "Yes, I know you've tried it, but you got to do the lifestyle and dietary changes and the medication together."

When we actually did a study on, this was on the vestibular migraine side of lifestyle changes and dietary changes plus supplements versus medication. It was just nortriptyline up to 40 milligrams, which is not as high as we generally go, but we just wanted to see a four-week change. They were actually pretty equivalent. When we combined them, they did a lot better. If you don't do one without the other, then you're not going to get the maximum benefit. I really drill down on the diet, the stress reduction, sleep, and then combine that with medicine. Then the medicine we try to direct towards the issues that they have.

If somebody, let's say has the sleep onset issue, I'll give them something that makes them a little sleepy so that they get the benefit out of that part of it so that we can give them better quality sleep. It's really up to, as I said, you have to be somewhat creative sometimes. Some patients we run out of options and we'll use the newer drugs, these anti-CGRP antibodies, even for them. We've had some good benefit from those, although we don't have a lot of patients in that because we generally can get them better with the other meds.

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Tinnitus Medications & Supplements

Medications and supplements are key components of tinnitus treatment, particularly when tinnitus is related to migraine-like processes. For medications, antidepressants like nortriptyline are commonly prescribed, with careful dosing, especially in older patients, to avoid side effects such as anticholinergic effects. Anti-seizure medications, calcium channel blockers, and even newer treatments like anti-CGRP antibodies are also utilized, often in combination, to manage symptoms effectively.

As for supplements, magnesium, vitamin B2 (riboflavin), coenzyme Q10, and sometimes vitamin D are used, as deficiencies in these have been associated with chronic migraines and tinnitus. While supplements can help reduce the severity of symptoms, particularly in continuous tinnitus, their effectiveness depends on the specific case and whether the tinnitus fluctuates in intensity. For patients with fluctuating tinnitus, these treatments can significantly reduce the volume, though they are not a cure. The goal is to lower tinnitus to a manageable level, which often improves quality of life without the need for invasive treatments.

[Dr. Joe Walter Kutz]
What are those supplements, maybe just an overview?

[Dr. Hamid Djalilian]
Sure. Yes. In general, the ones that we use, the three primary ones that we use. We use magnesium, vitamin B2 or riboflavin, coenzyme Q10. Those three have been shown to be low in people with chronic migraine. We also use sometimes, depending on the patient, vitamin D as well, because a low vitamin D is associated with increased chronic migraine. Whether there's a therapeutic effect or not, we don't know. There's definitely an association. Vitamin D is a pretty benign supplement to take. We do use that as well.

[Dr. Joe Walter Kutz]
Some of this work may be somewhat early or your observations are early. Do you feel that the same supplement, migraine diet, controlling sleep, have you found it effective for the other subset of patients that have continuous tinnitus?

[Dr. Hamid Djalilian]
Yes. Good question. What I do with the continuous patients is if they say that the tinnitus is very loud and bothersome to them, then yes, there is an effect with that. If they say that, well, the tinnitus is there most of the day, I don't notice it. I only notice it at night. Those are the patients that really will not benefit from this regimen. They would be better off using something like generic sound, like a white noise machine or an app or something, or a customized sound that's directed for the tinnitus.

If people are most of the time not bothered by it, I would rather them using something free like an app or something that they could use at night on a sleep timer or something like that. That would be enough for what they need. The ones who say this is driving me crazy and it's always at the same level, yes, those people we're able to bring the volume down for them.

[Dr. Joe Walter Kutz]
I don't know how much I've asked in the past about tinnitus fluctuation. I think, again, you have to talk to many patients and we start picking up on patterns such as that. That's interesting, something I'll certainly ask my patients and consider more of a migraine-type of approach. A lot of patients really like that approach. Most of our patients actually don't want medication. They'd rather have something that's a supplement or a dietary approach working their sleep as challenging as that is. Ever since, I've talked about that and implementing that more for vascular migraines.

A lot of patients are like, "Hey, I love trying to fix this without medication." It's a great approach. I'll ask them more about the fluctuation in their hearing. I also think that even similar with-- I guess you have to differentiate that similar with continuous tinnitus, if they get a poor night's sleep, they have something occur in their life that's very stressful, they're going to also worsen too. I guess this can be somewhat challenging to differentiate the ones that may be more of a migraine phenomenon from other reasons.

[Dr. Hamid Djalilian]
Correct. Yes. I usually ask them, is there a change in the volume to the tinnitus on a day-to-day basis? What I specifically ask them is, have you had a day in the last couple of months where the tinnitus was low and you're like, "Oh my God, this is so good. If I could just stay at this quiet level, I would be very happy." Those are the ones that they most of the time have an active migraine process and then there's just a little break in the migraine and the tinnitus drops and then it just goes back up again. Then those are the ones that we would benefit.

Now, if somebody says that it started loud and it's been loud for 30 years, then probably not going to be a good candidate for this treatment regimen. The more you actually ask patients, the more you'll find out that there are a lot of people who actually have the fluctuation and most of them would be very happy if we could just bring their level down to the baseline level. Now I tell them upfront, this is not intended to cure tinnitus. It's not going to completely silence it, but it's going to bring the level down to the lowest level that you generally hear or a level that generally doesn't bother you during the day when there is noise around you and you will only notice it at night.

People say, "Yes, I'll be very happy with that." I want to make sure that their expectations are in line with our expectations because that's the way to make patients unhappy is set very high expectations and then not be able to deliver. Then we do occasionally have patients that are very early in the onset of it. I think there is something that happens in the brain and I'm not sure what that is and we're trying to figure that out. There is something that happens that takes them from an acute stage to a chronic stage. I think in the acute stage, we're actually have been able to reverse the tinnitus and completely stop it in some patients. That's usually in the first couple of weeks.

If it's been going on for like usually after three, six months, then we generally can't make it go away. We could just bring the volume down. There's something that happens. It's thought to be something related to the so-called salient center in the brain. Whatever it is, there's something that does change at some point. What that point is, we don't know yet. We actually want to do a trial on acute tinnitus where we see how many people and what's the stage at which we could potentially stop tinnitus and what's the stage at which we can't stop it anymore. We could just bring the volume down. That's something that we're planning on doing in the next few months.

[Dr. Joe Walter Kutz]
I think I'm like many other otologists, otolaryngologists that we listen to these talks and we read the papers and in our training, we really focus on surgery and medical management, the basics of diuretics for many years disease and a lot of steroids for different conditions. I think a lot of it is just getting comfortable prescribing the medications because unfortunately, I think I have a similar situation as most of us is that when I need maybe assistance from neurology or other specialties, they may not have quite the understanding or buy-in. They're not always going to help with those medications.

I've been trying to get more and more comfortable with the medications. It seemed like overall, besides a few things you need to be careful about, they're pretty safe. It's interesting that you'll actually combine medications and you obviously need to know about these. Over time, you develop that, but with good success. One of the challenges I run into, a lot of these patients are over 70 years old and they don't really worry about the medications. Any comments on treating, because a lot of these patients are going to be, however you want to define older patients, but maybe older than our average patient. Any hints on medications with that patient population?

[Dr. Hamid Djalilian]
Yes, it's a good question. There are some antidepressants that are more recommended in the older population and some that are preferred not to be used because of their either anticholinergic effect or the somnolence that they create. I must say, I haven't had that issue. We have our patients send us their MyChart, the email messages when they have issues. We usually start very low and slowly go up so that we have cushion. If people get side effects, we just back off on the medicine and then usually the side effects goes away pretty soon after.

I must say, we haven't had that issue, but in general, if you, let's say, want to prescribe nortriptyline to a patient that's over 65, in EMR system, you're going to get a warning that this causes anticholinergic effect, et cetera. I must say, we've used it pretty frequently. Probably that's our number one go-to drug and we haven't had that issue. The challenge sometimes is patients who are already on very high dose antidepressants for another reason. If they come in on, let's say, Zoloft is 200 milligrams a day, then I won't start with an antidepressant on those patients.

We'll usually start with like an anti-seizure or calcium channel blocker or something like that. As I said, that's one of the difficult parts of doing this is you have to do it a little bit and get comfortable with it, as you said. Initially, I would actually send our, at least, I started treating migraine primarily because of vertigo and I would send the patients to a neurologist and they would say, "Well, you don't have headaches, therefore you don't have migraine." Then I said, "Oh, okay, I need to start treating this myself because there are these patients who are in limbo because they don't have headaches, but they have a migraine-related condition that right now doesn't have wide recognition."

I had actually specifically, this is one patient that started it, is they said, they were on disability, they worked at our university and was on disability because of dizziness. I said, "Well, you definitely have a migraine problem," but they wouldn't treat them. Then I said, "Okay, I'll start giving you medication." I started doing it and then I got comfortable with it and I started doing more and more for other patients. Then, as we've talked before, I use the APPs to help me because these patients do require multiple visits and there are a lot more patients with dizziness and tinnitus than there are otologists, obviously.

There are only so many of them we can see, but this is something that with experience, if an APP spends time with me, they can learn and then they can go on and do this under my supervision. Then they will run the more difficult ones where they don't know what to do. Then they'll run by me and I'll say, "Okay, we'll do this and do this. Then, we'll see how it goes." Then we'll just do sometimes shorter follow-ups or longer follow-ups depending on the patient and their comfort and how quickly they want to go up.

To answer your question is these patients unfortunately don't have a good home because right now, the people who are most comfortable treating atypical migraine are otologists, but it's probably one of the rarest specialties in the entire country. There are only about maybe 300 some people who do this and that's just not enough to treat the millions of people who have probably fluctuating tinnitus and/or dizziness and whatnot. We need to use other resources. We need to teach other otolaryngologists. That's why I partnered with Estella Medicine Company because it is something that's teachable.

It just requires a lot of time. I put in a lot of time training their people and then they can implement this. Then this can then be done independently of just my practice because just like you, I have to see patients with surgery, I have to train residents in surgery. I can't just see tinnitus or dizziness because there are a lot of other things I need to do. I need to maintain a skull-based practice and chronic ear practice and cochlear implants and all the other things that we do in order to train our residents. That's a service we need to do also to help a lot of patients who have this problem. We can do that with the benefit of other mid-level providers.

New Treatment Options for Tinnitus

Emerging treatments for tinnitus are focusing on technological advancements and novel therapies. One promising approach is bimodal neurostimulation, which involves combining sound therapy with electrical stimulation to target the neurons in the auditory system. Researchers have developed devices like SoundCure and others that use sound therapy customized to the tinnitus frequency, with the goal of reducing the perceived volume of the tinnitus. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) has also been incorporated into these treatments, addressing the stress and psychological components associated with tinnitus.

Additionally, experimental treatments such as cochlear implant-related stimulation and new devices designed to directly stimulate the cochlea or middle ear show potential. These treatments aim to provide ongoing relief, potentially offering more sustainable and effective results compared to previous therapies like transcranial magnetic stimulation. Furthermore, devices like Lenire, which provide trigeminal nerve stimulation via the tongue, are being explored, though their general effectiveness remains uncertain.

The integration of hearing aids with sound therapy is also commonly used, particularly for patients with hearing loss, as it helps reduce the brain's sensitivity to tinnitus. These treatments are still evolving, with ongoing studies seeking to better understand and refine their effectiveness.

[Dr. Joe Walter Kutz]
That's been a change for us for the past few years. We have excellent APPs in our clinic and they were interested in-- they don't do surgeries. They're interested in medical management, medical ontology. You meet these patients and they're really struggling and you want to help them as best you can, but you know that they're going to need probably follow-up initially maybe every six to eight weeks. You're going to get a lot of messages and it can become overwhelming. Like you say, you can only do so much. I think most practices now have APPs as part of their practice and these are very intelligent, motivated, compassionate individuals.

This has really helped us tremendously. I appreciate you've incorporated that in your practice and I think that's becoming more common. I want to take the last few minutes to talk about some of the emerging treatments, with technology, AI, some of the new bimodal neurostimulation devices. There's some other promising treatments for maybe patients that have continuous tinnitus that are not going to respond to micro treatments. What is your understanding of new treatment options that are coming out for patients?

[Dr. Hamid Djalilian]
Sure. That's a great question. When we started our quest on treating tinnitus or finding a new solution to tinnitus back about 18 years ago at UCI, one of the things I talked about with my colleague Fan-Gang Zeng in our department, he's a hearing scientist was, what's a cochlear implant doing? A cochlear implant is basic to silence tinnitus because cochlear implants work, as you know, about 70% of the time in making tinnitus go away when they're active, of course.

I thought, there are stimulating neurons, because for the audience, when we lose hearing, we're primarily losing hair cells in the cochlea, but the neurons actually stay around for a long time, at least 10 to 15 years afterwards, sometimes longer. They slowly degrade if there's no sound stimulation to the ear, but they will otherwise be maintained if especially there is sound stimulation to the ear. If somebody has some moderate sensorineural hearing loss, they're still getting sound through the ear. Those neurons are going to stay alive for a very long time.

Now, is there a way that we can stimulate those neurons without putting an electrode inside the cochlea, which can cause hearing loss? Our first foray into this was inspired in, so many things, I think, at least in my research has been inspired by a single patient. A single patient says something, and then just suddenly everything gets put into place. I just think this goes along with all these other things that other people have said, and this must be a common theme. Now, this one patient we had had been implanted elsewhere.

He had unilateral deafness and this is before the FDA had approved cochlear implants for unilateral deafness. They implanted him for the purpose of tinnitus. His tinnitus didn't get better with the standard implant programming. They sent the patient to my colleague Fan-Gang Zeng's lab to try to figure out if there's a way that we can actually make the tinnitus go away. First, we had a couple of PhD students who have spent months with him. He would come down from Northern California every couple of weeks or so and spend a couple of days with us. They found actually at a very low stimulation rate that usually an implant can't do.

They used a research interface that they could actually make the tinnitus go away completely in him. They published some very nice studies with electrophysiology when this tinnitus was silenced and when it was active. It was actually pretty cool. Then that made us think, could we target these neurons with sound because if people still have hearing, we may be able to target the neurons? That then actually started the process where my colleague Fan-Gang Zeng developed a device called SoundCure at the time. This was a device that was dispensed by audiologists but unfortunately is now not on the market.

I at the time thought, can we figure this out remotely for people? Because we found this stimulus around the frequency of the tinnitus is what helps the most. We then developed a software that was web-based. People could connect, could match their tinnitus, and we showed that was just as accurate as doing it in an office. Then we actually did a rough test of hearing online, which was actually the first time that had been done. What we realized is we don't have to have calibration. We just need to know relatively, what's their low frequency, what's their high frequency, what's their mid-frequency range approximately, and their relationships to each other rather than the actual sound level.

Then the software actually create a sound therapy where it would give them certain sound around the frequency of the tinnitus, but it was a narrow band noise. It wasn't as harsh as the tinnitus sound. Just a background for audience. If somebody has a tinnitus at, let's say, 8,000 Hertz, you give them 8,000 Hertz sound to hear, that will temporarily make their tinnitus go away in most of the people who have tinnitus. Let's say at that frequency, for example. That obviously doesn't make any sense to listen to the same sound that they're hearing internally.

We then widened the frequency band a little bit around it, and then we gave them another couple other frequency bands that made it so that makes it sound more like white noise. Those frequency bands were actually mathematically related because the way that the auditory cortex is organized is the neurons for 8,000 Hertz are right next to the 4,000 Hertz, which are next to the 2,000, et cetera. Every octave you come down, every half of that number, those cells are right next to each other. We then gave them these sounds and we found that actually that worked better than generic sound when we did a clinical trial that we did a randomized crossover design.

Then after a while, just again, seeing a lot of patients with tinnitus, I thought, this isn't solving the problem. I know we can reduce the volume, we can reduce the impact, but we're not solving the problem. These people have a lot of stress-related stuff and whatnot. We actually developed an internet-based cognitive behavioral therapy for these people. We did a trial of that, that was actually very effective. Then we actually did a trial combining cognitive behavioral therapy online and sound therapy online, customized sound therapy. That actually had a pretty big effect.

Actually, the effect of that is similar to some of the new emerging devices that are on the market currently in terms of reducing the tinnitus functional index and the volume and whatnot but in this interim, I realized that migraine is a big process that's related to tinnitus. Then we actually incorporated the migraine education into our cognitive behavioral therapy so that people can get that information through that. Then I was still hungry for a cure because I thought we're making the volume a little bit better, but we're not curing it. We need to find a cure.

We actually, back in 2006, when I started at UC Irvine, when I got the IRB approval for our sound therapy studies, I actually also included electric stimulation of the cochlea because I thought that we should be able to make that work somehow. Now it took some time and collaboration with my hearing scientist colleague and my neurotology colleague, Harrison Lin, and we were able to design the study using the ying-ling electrode that we use in surgery for facial nerve stimulation in scoliosis cases that has a very small ball electrode. What we did is we actually made an incision in the tympanic membrane and passed the electrode into the round window and stimulated the round window directly.

We found that actually we can make the tinnitus completely silent in patients, not everyone, of course, but majority of patients, but at a level where most of the time these patients either did not hear the electric stimulation, meaning they didn't hear a sound from it, or they habituated to the sound from the stimulus because the stimulus, of course, is going to go through neurons, so it's going to generate a little bit of sound. They tended to habituate to that, but then the tinnitus also came down. We had one patient who had several hours of residual inhibition.

This is a patient who had 20 years of tinnitus at a shadow 60 dB hearing loss, and we can make your tinnitus go away for several hours with just a five-minute stimulation. We thought, "Okay, this is what we should be focusing on. How can we get a device into the middle ear that could do this?" The challenge is always, whenever I've thought about devices for the ear, I always have thought, "I want to make this a device that all otolaryngologists can place, not something that just otologists can place." Because, again, you're going to reach that bottleneck of only 300 people who can do the surgery in the country, and then, you have, again, millions of people who could benefit from this.
We went a little bit a different route than traditional devices, which are implanted under the skin and have an electrode that go into the middle ear. Our device actually is all contained in the middle ear, and there's an ear canal component that charges it up, so there's no implanted battery. In the same system that a coil from a cochlear implant can do the power transfer, this does a power transfer using a very tiny coil.

Now, towards the end of the design and fabrication of the internal implant, which would be in the middle ear, which is basically a receiver and some custom-designed chips that then take the signal, translate it into an electric signal, and then can translate, put that into the round window. Then there's an ear canal component that's sending the signal and the power, and then there's a handheld component that the patient will use for settings and/or can be programmed by the audiologist or whoever. That's something we're doing.

Now, in parallel, I know that a colleague that you and I both know and love, Matt Carlson at Mayo Clinic, is also doing a similar thing, but his device is implanted under the skin and goes on to the promontory of the cochlea and stimulates the cochlea as well. They are in, actually, human trials. I don't know how many patients they've done so far, but that holds promise as well. It's using the similar ideas, what we do. It's just ours is going to be, hopefully, something that any otolaryngologist can place without the need to do facial recess and things like that.

[Dr. Joe Walter Kutz]
Yes, that's great to have, something that the transcranial magnetic treatment, it would work, but then once you would stop the therapy, a lot of times it wasn't lasting. Something like this would be something you can continually do. With your device, you just raise a temponomatal flap and place the device in and put the flap back down. A pretty straightforward operation.

[Dr. Hamid Djalilian]
That is correct. Yes, exactly. That's the hope and goal. We've been able to keep the device at a pretty small dimension. There isn't a lot of room in the middle ear, as you know, especially the malleus. Between the malleus and the promontory is only about two and a half millimeters. Inferiorly, there's more space, of course, and so our device is going to fit within the confines of the middle ear, the way it's currently designed and fabricated.

[Dr. Joe Walter Kutz]
Great. Have you had any experience with the Lenire device? We're not part of their initial release yet, so I don't have a lot of experience. I do have patients calling. Can you tell us about your experience with the Lenire device?

[Dr. Hamid Djalilian]
Yes, so Lenire, and I know the founder, Hubert Lim, is an incredibly intelligent researcher, and we actually really tried very hard to recruit him to come to UCI. Anyway, so that device, I think it's a great idea. I think there are probably a small subset of patients that do get benefit from it. I'm a little bit biased because I see all the failures, of course, so all the patients I see are the ones who didn't get benefit. The ones who do get benefit, they don't necessarily come to see me.

Now, I think considering that we know now, at least our understanding of what makes tinnitus loud is really the central sensitivity phenomenon that migraine creates that causes the brain to pay attention to that signal. That is not really addressed with a device like the Lenire. Now, the Lenire device is sending some trigeminal stimulation, in effect, by stimulating the tongue? I don't know if that stimulation is enough to have an effect. The tongue was primarily chosen based on the animal experiments that were done initially, but I don't know how much of the effect is from people sitting quietly for 30 minutes twice a day and not doing anything other than just relaxing.

I think if you have a lot of patients with tinnitus, just listen to, let's say, just sound therapy and relax for an hour a day, that would have a pretty significant effect on their tinnitus as well. How much of that is more than the sound and relaxation, I don't really know. I would have liked to have seen the trials be done a little bit differently with maybe a paddle that doesn't stimulate, so patients are doing exactly the same thing, and maybe using just a generic sound, like white noise.

That's not for me to decide how their trials should be done, but as far as does it have an effect, I think there are some people who do get benefit. How much of that benefit is from one component versus the other, I don't know. I think just knowing Dr. Lim, he's such an incredibly intelligent person, he's working on other devices as well, so I think that may not be necessary. Their final device or maybe newer iterations that potentially may be more effective. We currently don't offer it either, partly because we're just so successful with what we're doing for the fluctuating tinnitus patients and the ones who have changed levels, but at the same time, we do use customized sound therapy.

It's a lot more affordable than the device, which tends to be somewhat expensive. Do we use sound therapy, yes. Do we use hearing aids? Yes. If someone has significant hearing loss, using hearing aids is going to be a benefit to them because the more sound you get to the brain, the quieter the brain cells are going to be, and so therefore, the tinnitus is going to be quieter. Of course, hearing aids can't help when there's no sound around, so that's why they need some sound therapy, so we combine them usually together.

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Dr. Hamid Djalilian discusses Tinnitus & Migraine: Expert Insight on the BackTable 194 Podcast

Dr. Hamid Djalilian

Dr. Hamid Djalilian is the director of Otology, Neurotology, and Skull Base Surgery at UC Irvine in California.

Dr. Joe Walter Kutz discusses Tinnitus & Migraine: Expert Insight on the BackTable 194 Podcast

Dr. Joe Walter Kutz

Dr. Joe Walter Kutz is a neurotologist and Professor of Otolaryngology and Neurosurgery at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas, TX.

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BackTable, LLC (Producer). (2024, October 8). Ep. 194 – Tinnitus & Migraine: Expert Insight [Audio podcast]. Retrieved from https://www.backtable.com

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