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Peripartum Pelvic Floor Disorders Explained

with Dr. Lisa Hickman

Pregnancy and childbirth have a significant impact on the pelvic floor, often more than patients realize and even more still than most of our current postpartum care models are designed to address. In this episode of the BackTable OBGYN podcast, hosts Dr. Mark Hoffman and Dr. Amy Park welcome Dr. Lisa Hickman, a urogynecologist and pelvic reconstructive surgeon from The Ohio State University, to discuss peripartum pelvic floor disorders and her dedicated clinic for women with advanced obstetric lacerations.

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Podcast Contributors

Dr. Lisa Hickman discusses Peripartum Pelvic Floor Disorders Explained on the BackTable 66 Podcast

Dr. Lisa Hickman

Dr. Lisa Hickman is a gynecologic surgeon at Ohio State College of Medicine in Columbus, Ohio.

Dr. Mark Hoffman discusses Peripartum Pelvic Floor Disorders Explained on the BackTable 66 Podcast

Dr. Mark Hoffman

Dr. Mark Hoffman is a minimally invasive gynecologic surgeon at the University of Kentucky.

Dr. Amy Park discusses Peripartum Pelvic Floor Disorders Explained on the BackTable 66 Podcast

Dr. Amy Park

Dr. Amy Park is the Section Head of Female Pelvic Medicine & Reconstructive Surgery at the Cleveland Clinic, and a co-host of the BackTable OBGYN Podcast.

Synopsis

The conversation touches on key aspects of pelvic floor health, the impact of pregnancy and childbirth, and effective strategies for preventing and managing pelvic floor disorders. The episode emphasizes the importance of patient education, tailored postpartum care, and multidisciplinary collaboration with pelvic floor physical therapists and other healthcare personnel. Dr. Hickman shares insights on building a sustainable clinical model for peripartum pelvic floor disorders, securing stakeholder support, and implementing standardized processes to enhance patient outcomes.

Timestamps

00:00 - Introduction
04:21 - Understanding the Pelvic Floor
05:36 - Impact of Pregnancy and Childbirth
07:48 - Preventing and Managing Tears
22:56 - Postpartum Care and Challenges
28:54 - Starting a Peripartum Clinic: A Roadmap
33:54 - Pelvic Floor PT and Patient Education
40:03 - Impact of Repair Techniques on Long-term Outcomes
50:56 - Sustaining and Expanding the Program

Resources

Hickman LC, Propst K, Swenson CW, Lewicky-Gaupp C. Subspecialty care for peripartum pelvic floor disorders. Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2020 Nov;223(5):709-714. doi: 10.1016/j.ajog.2020.08.015. Epub 2020 Sep 2. PMID: 32888923; PMCID: PMC7720615.

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[Dr. Lisa Hickman]
The model of the clinic that I started at the Cleveland Clinic, which is the postpartum care clinic. It still exists today, is that we would see all patients who had third and fourth-degree tears during delivery at a short interval, which is really in line with what ACOG has recommended that women need postpartum care at a shorter interval, whether that's a touch base, an appointment with a midwife, or an APP.

We wanted to see these patients early postpartum because we know that there's a high incidence of wound complications. Wound infection can happen in about 20% of patients who have third and fourth-degree tears. Wound breakdown up to 25% of patients. Then acute pain is a pretty significant issue for these patients short term. Some patients do transition into some long-term chronic pain after these tears.

Other things, postpartum, we know for this patient population, there's a high rate of fecal urgency up to 30% of patients, but it's probably honestly even more than that from what I anecdotally see in clinic from talking to patients. Anal incontinence can be as high as 60%. Incontinence of flatus or stool, and that is a sequelae I think that psychologically really affects women because they really only ever imagine that one person in their household would be in diapers after they have a baby and that it wasn't them. Rectovaginal fistulas is an incidence of 1% to 2% in this patient population.

If enough of these patients, you will for sure be taking care of complex fistulas. I actually just took care of a woman who had her second baby, second-degree tear with her first. She had a breakdown of the perineum that connected to the rectum. It was a recto-perineal fistula. It was totally unanticipated, especially given that she had a second-degree tear in her last pregnancy. More than the incontinence, more than the prolapse. Dyspareunia can be a big issue in this patient population.

Then the psychological impact and the PTSD that can come from a traumatic delivery. talking to patients, I have patients who say like, "There is no way I can have another vaginal delivery. I already decided we need to adopt because if someone is going to make me have another delivery vaginally in the future, I just can't do it." I think it's really important to create a space. These visits are a lot of education.

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