Operate With Zen

In this crossover episode of BackTable Urology and BackTable VI, Dr. Aaron Fritts and Dr. Aditya Bagrodia speak with Dr. Phil Pierorazio about surgeon wellness and his mindfulness podcast, Operate with Zen.

First, Dr. Pierorazio discusses his motivation for starting the Operate with Zen podcast. During the pandemic, he crafted a new goal for himself: to be happier in surgery. He defines mindfulness as taking a moment to enjoy his livelihood and being more present at work and at home. Next, the doctors tackle the topic of physician burnout. All three doctors agree that burnout is not a badge of honor and are glad that the culture of medicine is progressing towards one that reprimands toxic attitudes early in training.

As for managing work-life balance, Dr. Pierorazio explains that once he started creating boundaries for his work schedule, he expanded what he could do. He encourages other surgeons to trust that their colleagues can handle emergencies, even if the patients are not their own patients. Collaboration with colleagues also leads to healthy competitiveness, a concept in which physicians stop comparing themselves to each other and instead celebrate their fellow colleagues. Dr. Pierorazio recommends channeling toxic competitive energy towards a drive to better a broader institution and patient care.

Finally, Dr. Pierorazio shares two of his personal tips for wellness. He avidly journals each day in order to exercise gratitude, reflect on his day, and set priorities for the next day. Finally, he emphasizes the importance of finding a wellness mentor or counselor in order to expand surgeon wellness and talent.