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BackTable / VI / Podcast / Episode #379

Management of HCC: Focus on Radiation Segmentectomy Part 2

with Dr. Juan Gimenez and Dr. Tyler Sandow

In this episode, host Dr. Chris Beck continues the discussion on managing hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC) with Dr. Tyler Sandow and Dr. Juan Gimenez, interventional radiologists at Ochsner Health in New Orleans, Louisiana.

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Podcast Contributors

Dr. Juan Gimenez discusses Management of HCC: Focus on Radiation Segmentectomy Part 2 on the BackTable 379 Podcast

Dr. Juan Gimenez

Dr. Juan Gimenez is an interventional and diagnostic radiologist with Ochsner Health in New Orleans, Louisiana.

Dr. Tyler Sandow discusses Management of HCC: Focus on Radiation Segmentectomy Part 2 on the BackTable 379 Podcast

Dr. Tyler Sandow

Dr. Tyler Sandow is an interventional radiologist with Ochsner Health in New Orleans, Louisiana.

Dr. Christopher Beck discusses Management of HCC: Focus on Radiation Segmentectomy Part 2 on the BackTable 379 Podcast

Dr. Christopher Beck

Dr. Chris Beck is a practicing interventional radiologist with Regional Radiology Group in New Orleans.

Synopsis

We continue the conversation where we left off in Part 1. Tyler and Juan share their thoughts on lobar treatment vs. radiation segmentectomy, selection strategies, and their preferred combination of ablation and Y-90. Tyler also reviews the core tenets of Y-90 treatment and references a handful of major landmark trials and studies.

Juan highlights more studies that guide their approach to preoperative mapping and intraoperative delivery of Y-90. Juan emphasizes cone-beam CT and how this technique has significantly evolved over the years. We cover dosimetry software, navigation software, and the calculation of treated tumor volumes. Additionally, Tyler and Juan discuss their change in treatment approach for especially complex cases, which can involve factors such as extrahepatic feeders and difficult treatment locations. We also discuss the redistribution of flow and how underlying liver disease may affect treatment plans.

We wrap up Part 2 of our discussion by highlighting the doctors’ current research pursuits. Tyler tells us about exciting new developments in the tumor marker arena, the emerging role of albumin in HCC, and the rising popularity of radiation segmentectomy in metastatic disease. Juan shares a few closing thoughts on the extrahepatic applications of Y-90 and the advantages of using AI in interventional radiology.

Resources

LEGACY Trial:
https://www.bostonscientific.com/en-US/medical-specialties/interventional-radiology/interventional-oncology/therasphere/clinical-data/legacy-study.html

RASER Trial:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35617978/

DOSISPHERE Trial:
https://www.bostonscientific.com/en-US/medical-specialties/interventional-radiology/interventional-oncology/therasphere/clinical-data/dosisphere-01.html

TARGET Study:
https://www.bostonscientific.com/en-US/medical-specialties/interventional-radiology/interventional-oncology/therasphere/clinical-data/target-study.html

Radiation Lobectomy: Preliminary Findings of Hepatic Volumetric Response to Lobar Yttrium-90 Radioembolization:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1245/s10434-009-0454-0

Radiation lobectomy: Time-dependent analysis of future liver remnant volume in unresectable liver cancer as a bridge to resection:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168827813004315

ACR–ABS–ACNM–ASTRO–SIR–SNMMI PRACTICE PARAMETER FOR SELECTIVE INTERNAL RADIATION THERAPY (SIRT) OR RADIOEMBOLIZATION FOR TREATMENT OF LIVER MALIGNANCIES:
https://www.acr.org/-/media/ACR/Files/Practice-Parameters/rmbd.pdf

Clinical, dosimetric, and reporting considerations for Y-90 glass microspheres in hepatocellular carcinoma: updated 2022 recommendations from an international multidisciplinary working group:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36114872/

“Simplicit90y” Boston Scientific Dosimetry Software:
https://www.bostonscientific.com/en-US/medical-specialties/interventional-radiology/interventional-oncology/therasphere/dosage-and-administration.html

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[Dr. Juan Gimenez]:

Mapping is simple. If you just think of what the purpose of the mapping is then you can understand what it is that you need to do to get it right. Basically, the purpose of a map is to identify all tumor feeders, vessels that are going outside the liver, any potential extrapolate supply. With that being said, literally ours is a protocol. You have to-- always start by reviewing your imaging and try to identify any variant anatomy. Then stick to it.

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